>> the catholic religion has to regain the trust of its followers. there's -- >> and take accountability. >> they need to take accountability. that's the first step in gaining the trust. >> accountability. >> i think that for our next pope is that we have to get somebody that's reinvigorating to the religion. somebody that's i guess "more out of the box." >> somebody we can look to that we feel we'll be secure with for a while. >> how many of you believe you're going to live a better life after you leave this world? raise your hand. so your faith says that after you're gone from here, your life will actually be better. >> yes. definitely. it t's got to be better than this. [ laughter ] >> frank joins us now. frank, so summarize. what do they want in a pope and what do they want for their church? what kind of church? >> they're hoping for somebody younger because they want the enthusiasm and energy that pope john paul ii brought to the catholic church. they want someone who doesn't necessarily look like them. they want someone who really has a sense o